Bottle traps are not code compliant in NYC and I'm pretty sure at least one or two other large cities, I just can't remember off the top of my head where (maybe Chicago?) These pesticides we ingest are not what will be killing us in 20 years because if you kill your bees at the rate we have been we all get to starve together. Are you going to inspect it? In 2012 a man was sentenced to 2 years in a Federal penitentiary for illegal possession of a homemade suppressor. The 'Bottle' trap, access to clean the trap is by unscrewing the bottom. Remove the bottle trap, install the correct plumbing component; Author: Dunbar (KY) Report the plumber to local plumbing division in your state for installing plumbing materials that are not approved for use in any state. We bought a beautiful lacava sink for our guest bathroom, which came with a beautiful lacava bottle-trap. A bottle trap is long and thin and will not take up so much room in a kitchen unit or under a basin. Old ones were made with a cast partition inside that was the unsafe part. Hi Linda, I did finish my project last May. Is a hot water faucet handle required to be on the left? Should I wrap the water heater with an insulation blanket? The European Union has banned the use of steel-jaw traps in Europe and banned the importation of pelts from countries that use these cruel devices to trap and kill fur-bearing animals. Are booby-traps illegal if they don't harm humans? Western Australia and the Centre are abundant with wildflowers in August, in fact in WA many tours are based on just seeing the wildflowers. There have been some great examples and tips above on how to keep them down and how not to get bit by the most dangerous animal on earth. Back to “S” traps – The reason “S” traps aren't allowed is because they have the potential to suck, or 'siphon', water out of the trap as the water flows down the drain. There are a few states – Virginia and Kentucky are two of them – that have outlawed antler traps. How do I look for a leak? Thus from 1 April 2020, it will no longer be lawful to use Fenn-type traps (Fenn, Springer, Solway and copies of these traps), Magnum 55, 110, 116 or WCS Tube Traps to catch stoats. • Why does the water have a rotten-egg smell in some empty houses? Post Reply. Here are six types of plumbing traps that are not approved by the International Residential Code. In the Far East, it is a large bottle of clear glass with a black metal top in which there is a hole. Why is there a wall switch next to the furnace or indoor unit of the air conditioner in the garage? I'll post the addition separately. The photo below shows one we came across on a recent home inspection that was installed by the homeowner as part of a kit that came with a “designer” sink. They exist. Q. The 'Bottle' trap takes up less space under a waste outlet and is ideal for pedestal mounted basins where space is usually very limited. Does anyone know anything about whether it's safe to use a bottle-trap rather than a p-trap? One of my little dogs checking out the Christmas activity. What are the pros and cons of a wall-mounted toilet? • Why is there mold inside my toilet tank? I'll post some photos for you. Resealing Bottle Traps are an alternative to Anti-Syphon Traps (Silentraps) and may be used in similar circumstances. • My water bill went way up last month. Torturing animals is considered illegal, so how is it that glue traps are not? We also finished our addition and it looks great. A bottle trap is in violation because it uses an internal baffle to supply the trap function, and if a hole develops in it, it will no longer serve as a trap, but the failure would not be evident so the trap could be replaced. It's illegal because of the above and additionally maybe it's somebody's pet that just ran on to areas that are marked "private, no trespassing, and keep out" and your trap just blew the stuff out of somebody's pet or worse yet, their young child who can't read yet encroached upon these areas to retrieve the pet and they get maimed or killed. What does polybutylene pipe look like? These are beautiful objects easy to unscrew once every five or ten years. The best part was, we had no flies either and come to think of it we have had hardly any this year. • What are the pros and cons of a wall-mounted toilet? What can I add to my septic tank to help it work better? Thanks for asking the question. So a bottle trap is not approved by the plumbing codes, although some jurisdictions may allow them as a … I have been following this and like the comments even though it got off the subject for awhile. My water bill went way up last month. No bees no more food unless we all go pollinate with our fingers and paint brushes. West Nile ,dengue fever ,yellow fever ,new twisted flues ,aids etc... Who would have guessed this west Nile would have spred so fast? Big $ in chem co is a problem. Grease Trap. Regards. Back to “S” traps – The reason “S” traps aren't allowed is because they have the potential to suck, or 'siphon', water out of the trap as the water flows down the drain. Concentrations of shed antlers in specific areas in one year, or across years, is valuable information. Spraying pesticides kills the bees faster! We considered it when we were planning the renovations but then decided it was a big outlay for about 6 days a year we felt we could desperately do with it. Why is an S trap illegal? We are not affiliated with, and do not receive any compensation from, any of the companies or products mentioned in this blog. My dog has torselo or bot fly larva developing from yes mosquito bites. Next time it might kill me? • What causes low water pressure in a house? We are in Florida and provide plenty of information about hurricanes and sinkholes, for example, but nothing on basements and ice dams. The forecast is for a lot more heat to come but Sydney weather is extremely hard to predict so no one really takes much notice until it happens. The flies aren't bad and by October the Box Jellyfish (deadly) are starting to infest the waters making swimming, diving and snorkling unsafe. The problem is that booby traps work. The traps use live corvid decoys – often Carrion Crows or Eurasian Magpies – to lure and then kill others of their kind. Can you live in a house while the plumbing is being replaced? (scroll down to see the question/answer)http://www.plumbingsupply.com/bottletraps.htmlThe more I think about it, the more inclined I am to get the regular P trap. Also, it is not self cleaning/scouring. Bottle traps are not normally fitted to bath's, but you can get 1.5" bottle traps that fit kitchen sinks. It is illegal to set spring traps in the open or on top of a post. At this moment well I poke this out on my smart ph. Pesticides kill bees! Unfortunately, the beautful (and expensive) lacava shelf that we bought for under the sink only fits if we use their beautiful bottle-trap. Why is a backflow preventer required on lawn sprinkler systems? I will have an answer for you shortly. That can of tuna I bought might be toxic radiation? Why is it a problem? My sons legs are covered in bites. In plumbing, a trap is a U-shaped portion of pipe designed to trap liquid or gas to prevent unwanted flow; most notably sewer gases from entering buildings while allowing waste materials to pass through. Recreational fishers cannot use canister traps, funnel traps or round traps in tidal waters and bait traps fall under this fisheries regulation. • What is an "S-Trap" under my sink? © McGarry and Madsen, page for other related blog posts on this subject, or go to the. Bottle Traps Another illegal plumbing trap is any type that relies on concealed partitions to create a trap - such as a bottle trap ( 4715.0960 ). Can't think of anything else. It also violates the requirement that the interior be a smooth flowing surface. Spraying is going to only speed up something that is out of hand. Really fast it seems these days. Their use is banned or restricted in several U.S. states, including Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and Washington. • What are the common problems to look for when the plumbing has been replaced in a house? Ask Question Asked 3 years, 11 months ago. In oil refineries, traps are used to prevent hydrocarbons and other dangerous gases and chemical fumes from escaping through drains. What is an "S-Trap" under my sink? Even if it's safe, I wouldn't want it if it will clog easier. Hopefully one day. Well...except for the furniture.This is me having a celebratory glass of wine the day I finished my wood project. I would lean toward the "your contractor is old school" explanation in this case. I just ordered the Kohler bottle trap and came across your post. He says that not only are bottle traps not code-compliant, but they're just not as reliable as p-traps, so potentially dangerous (claims it could cause an explosion). Why are booby traps illegal? Usually by then The Wet season is over for Northern Australia and the Cyclone Season hasn't started. The things you came up with for doing that mural were amazing, things I would never have thought of. The safest months to come here are August/September and those months are good to do the Red Centre, Northern Territory and Queensland too. Our contractor says we should use a real p-trap instead of the bottle-trap. I saw this image today: [! posted in Premises Liability on Friday, July 7, 2017. Everything that works is illegal. Viewed 13k times 5. Author: packy (MA) gday, bottle traps rely on interior partitions for their trap seal. • How do I get rid of the sewer gas smell in my house? You may have heard about the “S” trap drain line or its cousin, the P Trap. It requires more space to install, but that's not why it has fallen out of favor or why many states have made the S-trap illegal. If you are well-prepared, there is a good chance a competent judge may dismiss your ticket, and may even reprimand the municipality for operating a speed trap, forcing them to remove it. Under control now I better mention. Here I build an Eco friendly home and should have built bee hives to help save the world.LOL Fact is. The waste pipe is always fitted horizontally. How can I tell what type of plumbing pipe I have? Also, construction methods and materials vary in different parts of the country and it is possible that important issues related to your area may not be covered here. We have problems because of our water quality. • Is a hot water faucet handle required to be on the left? • Why is a backflow preventer required on lawn sprinkler systems? But if the buck is drawn to an antler trap by corn, you learn little about the buck’s natural movements. Nothing you can do about it. Why is it a problem? I googled it and came across plumbers discussing bottle traps on a plumbing forum here:http://www.plbg.com/forum/read.php?1,398952I guess I need to talk to our plumber about this. Active 1 year, 8 months ago. Grease trap is installed in the waste pipe from one or more fixtures for the purpose of separating grease from the liquid and retaining the grease. They come in several varieties. ... I’ve reached out to a friend in Cali to get a definitive answer. • How can I tell what type of plumbing pipe I have? It never would have occurred to me as I'm not mechanically inclined:). I found this just now. This is quite an appropriate house for us isn't it - everything seems to be around partying!!! Re: why are bottle traps illegal? "Why are bottle traps illegal in many parts of the U.S.?" A fly bottle or glass flytrap is a passive trap for flying insects. The second is that a trap can not be used that has an interior partition that will corrode. A bottle trap is also called a “decorative lavatory trap”, and it is designed to be installed for sinks where the plumbing below the sink is visible. Section 4715.0960 of the Minnesota State Plumbing Code says that "Drum traps shall be installed only when permitted by the administrative authority for … If the interior tube fails due to corrosion or another problem, sewer gas could enter the home, and it is not examinable to verify that that the trap is functional. If that design fails due to corrosion, etc., sewer gas could enter the home. Hi Kevin, I believe that that trap is not really a bottle trap in the real sense of the word, rather it is an enclosed P trap which would be allowed in most if not all jurisdictions. They are sold as “Solvent Traps”. So a bottle trap is not approved by the plumbing codes, although some jurisdictions may allow them as a “special condition.”. Only so much I can do really. Various 'special' traps are … Natural selection I guess will dictate my lifespan. because the internal component can not be seen without taking the trap apart, there is no way to know it is doing it's job. • Should I call a plumber or septic tank contractor when my septic tank backs up into the house? John on September 19, 2019 at 2:36 pm Thank you for your follow up. Where is the septic tank? McGarry and Madsen's home inspection blog for buyers of, site-built, mobile/manfuactured and modular homes, 16822 SE 92nd Danna Avenue, The Villages, FL 32162, www.thevillagesbestinspector.com • Comments or questions to  mcgarryandmadsen@mac.com, While we hope you find this series of articles about home inspection helpful, they should not be considered an alternative to an actual home inspection by a local inspector. >>. Why “S” Traps Aren’t Allowed A common plumbing defect found in many older houses is an "S" trap. It’s Illegal in Some States. But why is the S trap illegal? They are our preditors in a way. Give blood and SAVE THE BEES please. Bottle waste traps are usually made of plastic but chrome plated versions are available for most applications. I have never heard of one of them exploding. • What can I add to my septic tank to help it work better? Some years ago I read that bees are declining. Just have to stick my nose I one last time. This is because the “S” trap will siphon or suck water out from the trap which will end up releasing methane (sewer) gases into the home. Although a bottle trap is more-or-less a P-trap, it depends on an internal tube to create the trap seal, similar to a bell trap. They are legal, as long as they are fitted with clean food and water, a perch and shelter from the wind and rain – unfortunately, however, this is rarely the case, rendering many illegal. If the interior tube fails due to corrosion or another problem, sewer gas could enter the home, and it is not examinable to verify that that the trap is functional. • Should I wrap the water heater with an insulation blanket? Here’s links to a collection of our other blog posts about PLUMBING: • How can I protect my pipes to keep them from bursting during a hard winter freeze in North Florida? • Why is there sand in the bottom of my toilet tank? Are you going to inspect it? It happens its can be taken care of. Should I call a plumber or septic tank contractor when my septic tank backs up into the house? Setting up a booby trap for a person who breaks into your home, perhaps in part because of the popular Home Alone movie franchise, is something people often find enticing. << Where are the funny home inspection pictures? They are dying at a fast rate! Apparently I haven't taken too many photos once I was done. What are the code requirements for layout of drain piping under sinks? • What causes a gurgling sound when a bathtub or sink drains? Why is it a problem? The sad truth is most traps used to kill, catch, and harm wildlife and other animals are still entirely legal. • Is it alright to disconnect the washing machine drain from the septic tank and divert it to the ground in the yard? By fighting your speed-trap ticket you force the operators of the speed trap (police and municipality) to take their time and money to fight back and prosecute you. Lisa you should have brought hubby here last summer, it hardly stopped raining and was nowhere near as hot as it should have been. This type of trap can be hidden behind a pedestal although proprietary pedestal traps are a little longer. GM bugs Hell ya might slow it down. I only wish most clogs would be in the trap. • Does a home inspector check the plumbing under the floor slab? but check with your local building dept if there is doubt. Fact is a fact We are over populated Nature has decided to thin us out. Very seldom do I have that occur usually it is beyond in the wall . The purpose of a trap is to prevent sewer … I don't know. Why does kitchen sink smell like sewer? Something I have to personally do and I have bees lots of them. We bought a beautiful lacava sink for our guest bathroom, which came with a beautiful lacava bottle-trap. When the Trap is subject to syphonic conditions the automatic hydraulic action allows air to be drawn through the inlet of the Trap and through the by pass columns thus breaking the syphonic action. What’s Banned. The stupid lawyers and liberal judges have screwed the justice system up so much that the criminals have more rights than the everyday honest law abiding Tom, Dick or Harry. What's that powdery crust on the pipe connections at the water heater? I can't imagine that all of the high end faucet manufacturers are risking their reputation by selling something that is a safety hazard. • Why can't PVC be used for water pipe inside a house? How can I protect my pipes to keep them from bursting during a hard winter freeze in North Florida? Our contractor says we should use a real p-trap instead of the bottle-trap. mp, we are bred tough here - seriously we have never really had the need to have AC, we get the sea breeze most days, yesterday the wind was from the west which are very hot inland winds and they stop the easterly sea breezes coming in and temps were pretty even over the whole city, which is very unusual. Why is it a problem? Sydney covers quite a big area now and when you see temps they are usually for the CBD which although it is on the harbour can be a couple of degrees higher than us, the coastal areas can be similar, within 1 deg of each other, but once you head even slightly towards the west the temps go up and can be 5 - 8 deg hotter. In some areas of the world, some countries have banned specific traps. Visit our PLUMBING page for other related blog posts on this subject, or go to the INDEX for a complete listing of all our articles. Are drop-in toilet bowl cleaner tablets safe? It can be coordinated with a specific high-style finish, such as weathered copper or oil-rubbed bronze, to match the faucets. • What's that powdery crust on the pipe connections at the water heater? I keep seeing others posting here but not educating as to how serious it really is. How can I tell if a house is connected to a septic tank system or sewer? S-Traps are illegal in most areas in the US. We routinely specified them for exposed plumbing applications outside of NYC and never heard a peep about a problem with them. It is illegal to use a gin trap or to possess it for an unlawful purpose. How do I get rid of the sewer gas smell in my house? I have had dengue 2xs and still healthy as a horse. • Which plumbing fixtures require water shut off valves in a home? 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